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По поводу Бигглса и 2 divided by zero - насколько я знаю, действительно именно персонаж Бигглса был взят за основу "сумасшедшего летчика". Почему - понятия не имею. Я нигде у ПШБ не видела упоминаний об этом сериале. Возможно, в этом есть какой-то дополнительный смысл, который был понятен в то время или тем, кто сериал видел.


2 divided by zero - это синоним бессыслицы, т.к. деление на 0 невозможно математически. Раз на ноль делят двоих, то, видимо, имеются ввиду сами ПШБ "в мире бессмысленного"....

Это так, some speculations))))

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2 divided by zero
просто Нилу понравилось, как звучит фраза, а когда ему указали на то, что математически это не верно, он просто сказал, что никогда не дружил с математикой.

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Очень хороший фильм, на самом деле. Абсурдный. Напоминает Magical Mystery Tour, Beatles - та же попытка создать сюрреалистическое пространство. Но в отличие от Beatles гораздо более удачная. Просто потому что Beatles в свое время пренебрегли услугами профессиональных режиссеров и сценаристов. Все хотели сделать Сами... Так о чем это я... Ах , да, ОТЛИЧНЫЙ ФИЛЬМ!!! Воообще, сюрреализм - это их... (кубизм, кстати, говоря, тоже.... :wink: )

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А кто нить чего нить знает про Нила Диккенса, который лётчика играл?
А то рыщешь рыщешь по Сети и никакой биографии, только список того, что озвучивал и где снимался с фоточкой неопределённой давности.


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А кто-нибудь может дать мне ссылочку откуда можно скачать субтитры к фильму? или у кого может есть? У меня есть VHS без японских иероглифов, думаю, попробовать сделать DVD с русскими субтитрами

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я бы тоже с удовольствием поимела субтитры, т.к. очень много ваще не понимаю на слух :(

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я помню, их очень давно выкладывали на гриндрейке. но, кажется, их убрали :(

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О, разбираясь в своих завалах нашел гриндрейковские субтитры!!!!! и не только (например как Нил берет интервью :) ) Как будет время субтитры выложу, т.к. нужно с распечатки набить сюда

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ужас а копирайты?


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Ромаанаааайс!!!! забей на копирайты! Даешь субтитры к фильму!!!!!!

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Против тройного рар архива с 12-значным паролем на каждом все копирайты бессильны... :)

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Да спросите просто Грина, он не откажет, на благое дело-то :)


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потерпите до выходных, обязательно выложу

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ну что ж, постараемся дотерпеть, тока ты и сам опять на полгода не пропади :)

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Как и обещал - выкладываю.
Сразу предупреждаю, что некоторые фразы пропущены
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PET SHOP BOYS ICHH FILM TRANSCRIPT

Взято с psb.greendrake.info/ichh
Версия субтитров от 10.08.2004, 23:14

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Scene: Comic postcards & politicians
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[Neil:]
Comic postcards. Ever since I was a child, the comic and the hostile seemed to go hand in hand.

[Kiosk keeper:]
What do you want?

[Neil:]
Four postcards please.

[Kiosk keeper:]
Yeah, that's when you've got your decent family type of holidaymaker down here. Nowadays all you get is your hooligans and your bike gangs and your politicians. Yes, your decent english holidaymaker, huh, they all go to Spain.

(kiosk keeper uses binocular)

Just your dredges that come here now.. And the-worst of them all is your politicians! They're the worst bunch of all they are! Pretending to go on conferences and the like., when all they really want, huh, is a week away from the wife!

[Neil:]
Could I have a cup of tea as well please?

[Kiosk keeper:]
Hen. oh right. Anyway, you're not one of them politicians are you?

[Neil:]
No!

[Kiosk keeper:]
Oh, that's alright then.

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Scene: "Dear mam" - Neil's filling a postcard
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[Neil:]
Dear Mum, remember when we were all thrown out of Auntie Vi’s boarding house because I spat out my food? Madness was never far away.

What with Uncle Dredge and his terrible jokes and his ventriloquist's dummy. No wonder the audience wanted their money back with that bloody dummy going on and on about the nature of time. How you stood it all I’ll never know.

Those desperate neat little houses.. The desolate cafe and that boarding house.. Remember the paper thin walls?

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Scene: Breakfast - hah hah
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[Dredge:]
Would you like a hand, sir? (followed by a visual joke) Hah, Hah! It's only a laugh, no harm done.

Good morning, everybody! What a lovely day for a bit of fun. Hah, Hah. It's only a laugh, no harm done. Hah, Hah.

Sir, allow me to give you a cigarette. Here we are. Allow me. Bang! It's only a laugh, no harm done.

Here. Have a sniff of my flower, Mrs. Hah, Hah, Hah. It's only a laugh, no harm done.

Good morning, Vicar. Chrissy...... Hah, Hah, Hah. It's only a laugh, no harm done.

You don't have such trouble, my ......It's just...... Hah, Hah.

Good morning, Mrs.

[Landlady:]
Sit down, Dredge!

[Dredge:]
Right.

[Landlady:]
Up! Be upstanding!
......our Lord......

[Dredge:]
Pardon, Hah, hah.

[Landlady:]
......our Lord......

[Dredge:]
Sit! Hah, Hah. It's only a laugh, no harm done.

[Landlady:]
Shut up, Dredge!

[Dredge:]
Right.

[Landlady:]
......our Lord for these things and of what we're about to receive from my bounty to Jesus Christ, our Lord. Amen.

[Dredge:]
Amen.

[Landlady:]
Right, come on everybody, eat up!

Oh, Chrissy, darling, I want you to eat everything up.

[Dredge:]
Yes, eat it all up, Chrissy-baby!

[Landlady]
Oh. Chrissy, darling, I shall miss you so much. Still, never mind, will ever ......little couple tonight.

[Dredge:]
Lucifer's wind. Hah, Hah. It's only a laugh, no harm done.

[Landlady:]
Dredge, sit down!

[Dredge:]
Right.

[Landlady:]
Oh, Chrissy, darling...

You, horrible little......

[Dredge:]
......right.

[Landlady:]
No breeding, the little gutter-snike.

[Dredge:]
Yes, if I were you, I'd give the right good troncing. Hah, Hah. It's only a laugh, no harm done.

[Landlady:]
How'd you ......, Mr. and Mrs. Biggins. If your Ivor will insist on spitting out his breakfast at the table, I shall have to ask you to find alternative accommodation. That sort of behaviour might be all right in Spain and your seaside resorts but we get politicians here and foreigners and that's ......

[Landlady:]
Chrissy, darling, what have I done to deserve this?

[Dredge:]
It's only a laugh, no harm done. Hah, Hah, Hah.

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Scene: Bikers
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[Biker:]
Dredge! (Laughter)

[Kiosk keeper:]
Bloody politicians!!!!

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Scene: Priest
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If thou would see God's laws with purest light. Thy eyes on heaven fixed must be.

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Scene: It’s a sin (disco mix)
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[Someone's voice:]
Roll up, roll up!......

[Priest:]
Boys! Where are you, boys?

[Neil:]
Echoes fade and memories die:
Autumn frosts have slain July.
Still she haunts me, phantomwise,
Alice moving under skies
Never seen by waking eyes

[Chris (female voice):]
You sometimes dig the ......
For wheels of Hansom-cabs.
And that's the way" (he gave a wink)
"By which I get my wealth -
And very gladly will I drink
Your Honour’s noble health.

[Priest:]
????????
......
This machine is not working.

[Voices:]
??????

[Priest:]
Boys! Boys! ???? Boys! Tennant! Lowe! Boys! ???? Boys! Boys! Boys! Boys? Who wants to leave the room? Ha! Tennant, Lowe! Come, Lowe, Tennant.

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Scene: Priest on the desk
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[Priest:]
About high heaven the ocean never touch....

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Scene: PSB near mailbox
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[Neil:]
Dear mum! Remember when dad bought his first car with all the family savings. That blue and cream Ford Zephyr and they drove us home like a loonatic and how we had to pick up everybody on the way, total strangers in the night, we could have been hacked to death!

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Scene: East End boys
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[East End boys:]
Hey, hey, you, you call the Police there is a mad man around
Running down (running down) underground
You got a heart of glass or a heart of stone?
Just you wait till I get you home
You've got no future, you've got no past (past, past)

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Scene: Car buying
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[Salesman:]
The honeymoon special. Sir, one careful lady owner. A nun from our lady...... You can phone and check yourselves, but of course she is vowed to silence.

[Neil:]
How much?

[Salesman:]
Oh, one very ... who asked (dared to ask???) that question, sir. And is the pope a catholic? I won't waste any more time, sir. I can see that - you two gentlemen have the most discerning taste. It's quality that counts with you, Sir, not the cost. Am I right? Or do the brown bears live in the woods?

[Neil:]
How much?

[Salesman:]
How much?! What a question! To go so ...... where angels fear to tread!

[Neil:]
How much?

[Salesman:]
Is it purely for social and domestic use or do you wish to use the car for business? 'Soc.' and 'dom.' or 'biz' as we say in the trade.

[Neil:]
A bit of both.

[Salesman:]
Oh, well, this automobile is most suitable for that very purpose, Sir. Take a tip from an old war wound (?), buy now or forever hold your peace.

How would you be intending to pay, sir? A credit arrangement, a bankers draft, a part exchange perhaps, Lucky Jim credit cards, ...... stamps, a hostage exchange, postal orders, diamonds (?) and necklaces?

[Neil:]
Cash. How much?

[Salesman:]
Cash? Cash?! Cash??!! Well, for cash... about three grand.

[Neil:]
Five hundred.

[Salesman:]
It's deal!

Hey, hey, you! Stop that! What God joined together, let no man tear asunder (?).

[Music:]
Token bingo, play it now. The more you win the bigger the prize that's falling down before your eyes, token bingo, play it now.

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Scene: Radio warning
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[Radio issue:]
Here is an urgent news flash: Drivers in the region of the M40 should beware a stranger wearing dark glasses, a fawn raincoat, and carrying a battered suitcase. A killer who has savagely hacked to death three people, who each in turn stopped to give him a lift. They were a chief accountant, a morris dancer, and a nun from a convent. The stranger has been known to masquerade as a priest wearing high-heeled shoes. Drivers are warned not to stop under any circumstances.

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Scene: Killer & PSB
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Always on My Mind (complete)

[Killer:]
I smell youth, vintage youth.

[Neil:]
You don't have any weapons in there, do you?

[Killer:]
Why? What do you need?

[Chris:]
Where are you from?

[Neil:]
Yes, where are you from?

[Killer:]
I'm glad you asked me twice. You see I'm a bilingual. I'm a bilingual illiterate. I can't read in two languages. I've just been fishing with Salvador Dali. He used a dotted line... caught every other fish. Then we played poker with tarot cards. I got a full house. Four people died; one of them was a nun.

[Neil:]
You're very full of yourself, aren't you?

[killer:]
Yes, some people do call me conceited, I can't think why. I'm just tired. I've been up all night trying to round off the infinite. And Lucifer before the day doth go.

[Chris:]
Don't we know you?

[Killer:]
I don't know. I used to be blind. But then I started eating carrots. I still can't see during the day.

[Neil:]
Do you drink?

[Killer:]
No thank you. that's very nice. I'll get the waiter. Oh, I love the radio. I had a girlfriend once who used to sing on the radio. Every time she walked under the bridge you couldn't hear her sing. Oh she was a beautiful girl, very beautiful. When I first met her she'd just been to a psychoanalyst. It didn't do her any good, she said. I asked her why. She said I'm a nymphomaniac, you see, and I only get turned on by Jewish Cowboys. I'm so sorry I said, let me introduce myself, my name is Bucky Goldstein.

I didn't know you played the violin. I wrote a song myself once you know, but I can't read music, so I don't know what it is. I wonder... do you think it's this?"

[Chris:]
Where are you going?

[Killer:]
I'm going there. But I like it here wherever it is. Stop the car. I'm getting out. You are no longer here. Stop! Go! Go! Go! You went away, it should make me feel better... I don't know how I'm going to get through....
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Scene: Restaurant
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[Waitress:]
... What would you like? ...

[Chris:]
Mustard oysters, then the fillet of Soul Belgique.

[Waitress:]
Fillet of Soul Belgique. Anything to drink?

[Neil:]
Chateaux le Tour 1942.

[Waitress:]
Chateaux le Tour 1942. Nice year.

[Pilot:]
Divided by zero.

[Waitress:] (to the traveller) - What would you like, sir?

[Traveller:]
...... eggs, beans and chips. Two sausages: one large, one small, toma...

[Chris:]
Hahaha...

[Traveller:]
Tomato, bacon, a fried slice and extra beans.

[Neil:]
Hahaha

[Waitress:]
Anything to drink?

[Traveller:]
A cup of tea.

[Waitress:]
The tea?

[Traveller:]
The tea.

[Waitress:]
The tea is nice.

[Doll:]
Let me out, let me out! Come on, let me out, let me out of here. If you don't let me out, you're in big trouble. Hurry up, come on, let me out, let me out of here. Come on, move yourself, come on, let me out. If you don't let me out, I'll call the police. Oh, right, hurry up. Thank you very much

[Pilot:]
Divided by, divided by zero!

[Waitress:]
Oysters, thinly sliced brown buttered bread, the 1942 Chateax le Tour. The oysters are served with crushed ice and seaweed trimmings. Would you like to sample the wine?

[Neil:]
No, that'll be fine.

[Doll:]
What are you staring at?

[Chris:]
Nothing, nothing.

[Doll:]
That's all right, then.

[Waitress:]
Eggs, beans, chips, two fried slice, sausages: one large, one small, tomatoes, the extra beans and the tea.

[Traveller:]
And ... order of it.

[Waitress:]
Got a long way to go, have you? ....

[Traveller:]
Oh, yes, yes, we're playing Scunthorpe.

[Waitress:]
Oh, I see. I hope you win.

[Doll:]
She's got a nice pair of legs, hasn't she?
Got far to go, have you? Got far to go, have you?

We’re going to Scunthorpe. That's if baldy here doesn't die of over-eating.

[Chris:]
Ah. rignt.

[Doll:] (to Neil)
Got the time, have you?

[Neil:]
Pardon?

[Doll:]
Time Have you got the time, have you?

[Neil:]
............

[Doll:]
Time, funny thing time. There are two ingredients to time. One is the notion of time as a logical space. The other is the notion of it being a logical space used by us to represent relations between events, and conceptional connections between concepts. But this just does not reflect the content of our concept of time. Arguably, an object is a teacup only if has been produced by a conscience agent with some general intention about its use, or possible use, and, consequently in a world devoid of conscience intending agents, where there might be things like teacups, there would be no teacups. However, this just does not seem to apply the case of time. Our conception of time is not such that we would say of a possible world devoid of conscience agents, that while there is something like time, there is literally no time, on the grounds that no-one was doing any representing in that world. One might wish to hold that a full grasp of our concept of time involves grasping the possibility of using certain mathematical structures in representing the temporal aspect of things. Someone who fails to see this has failed to grasp something about the full concept of time.

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Scene: Pilot
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[Pilot:]
But in this sense there would be no time if there were no beings.

[Doll:]
Oysters,.... Chateaux le Tour.

[Pilot:]
If there were no beings capable of reason, it is the sense in which there would be no food where there are no organisms and no teacups, if there were no tea drinkers. I see, what an extraordinary idea: a world with no teacups!

There could be things that look like what in our world teacups look like. Well, I'll be dead.

[Doll:]
The oysters are served on a silver platter

[Pilot:]
That dummy is a blasted existentialist.

There could be things that could be used to drink tea from: buckets, shells and ... but teacups are the things that we use to drink tea and in that sense they're as much a cultural object as chess or the polonaise. Well, this puts things in a ... light.

[Doll:]
Would you like to sample the wine, Sir?

[Pilot:]
Crashed ice and ...... trimmings, of course. The thinly sliced buttered brown bread and ...... That's it. I'll give them bloody ...... ...... thinly sliced crashed brown ice. I'll give them bloody teacups, buckets and shells, oh silly ...... come with ...... up, two and two is four, right extra ...... are bloody illogic.

Shells, ...... and teacups, silly ...... what about ...... the law.

Contact.

What about, what about the mortgage, two and two is either four or two up, two down. Divided by, divided by, divided by.

[Doll:]
Divided by, divided by, ... and 1952 Ford Zephyr. They believe in buckets and spaaaades! Get them.

[Pilot:]
Divided by, divided by ...... Acacia Avenue.

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Scene: Old woman
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Scene: Pilot on aeroplane
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[Pilot:]
Divided by, divided by.
Oysters, fillet of Soul Belgique, Chateau le Tour.
I'll show you what bloody day it is.
Divided by, divided by zero, zero.'
Oh, I will miss you, Chrissy-baby, Hahaha....

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Scene: PSB & East End boys
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Dear mum, everyone's been very nice on the journey. We're at a Acacia Avenue now next to the green, before we moved. Remember how dad hated his job and he used to leave in a flaming temper every morning. Bloody frightening he was. Once I stole his car to emigrate, but the milkman caught me. I've been meaning to call you, mum. I've been meaning to call.

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Scene: Newpapers seller speach
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[Newspaper seller:]
Scunthorpe, train de-railed. Many dead. Midget sought by police!

[repeats]

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Scene: Wigman invites PSB for a drive
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[Wigman:]
Ah, take the ...... A voice like a violin, the evening light's a flay upon the everlasting shadows. Cost your patience here, young sirs. Your carriage awaiteth here.

...... I should convey you on the road to your destiny.

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Scene: Wigmans monologue in the car
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[Wigman in car:]
Him the Almighty Power, hurled headlong flaming from the ethereal sky, with hideous ruin and combustion, down to bottomless perdition, there to dwell in adamantine chains and penal fire, who durst defy th' omnipotent to arms.

So farewell Hope, and with Hope farewell Fear, farewell Remorse: all Good to me is lost; Evil be thou my Good.

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Scene: Wigman's final monologue
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Their lean and flashy songs Grate on their scrannel Pipes of wretched straw, The hungry Sheep look up, and are not fed, But swoln with wind, and rank mist they draw, Rot inwardly, and foul contagion spreads.

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Scene: Doll's final gibe
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[Doll:]
Hey, hey! Got far to go, have you? Hahaha.

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